眯杨彪的神情原本还笑眯眯的,听到严绍的话,表情瞬间变得严肃了起来。
“复先何意?”
严绍笑了笑,正视着对方,面对杨彪的看似威严的目光没有一点犹疑。
“恕我直言,如今天下大乱,汉室衰微,天子在世人眼里早已不再是高高在上的万民之主,反而成了傀儡一般。尤其是在各方诸侯的眼底,奇货可居而已。之前的董卓,李傕跟郭汜等人就是如此,若是到了关东以后,手里不能握有足够的实力,很难说会不会再次重蹈覆辙…”
“现如今的局势,指望用天子的名望就号令群雄是不可能的,唯一的办法就是效法当年的光武皇帝,手中更需要有一支铁军才行…”
“哦?难不成在复先看来,如杨奉或是徐荣等辈,难道不是汉室的忠臣吗?”听到严绍这么说,旁边一个大臣冷笑的道。“假如不是他们的话,天子跟我们恐怕还被困在长安,这样的人称不上忠臣的话,谁还能称得上?”
“杨将军跟徐将军是否是忠臣,这点不是我能评论的,不过我想杨大人应该有自己的看法…”严绍笑了笑,并没有一点动怒。“不过小心驶得万年船,到了如今,汉室复兴已经是千难万难,不可能再有一次的疏忽大意,更不能有顶点失败,所以再小的事情,搁在这里,也是天大的事情。”
“既然复先如此,为何不提议天子到青州去呢?”
这次开口的,却是杨彪。
“青州如今在复先的治理下,也堪称富饶,尤其是临淄更是天下有数的大城,又是齐国旧都,作为天子临时的居所也是恰当的,不是吗?”
说话间,却是眼神逼视着严绍,似乎想看出严绍心底的真是想法。
然而严绍听了,却是摇了摇头。“严绍自然是愿意将天子接到青州去,临淄虽说不比长安或是洛阳,也是有数的大城,又是齐国当年的旧都,就像大人所说,还是听恰当的。可是青州实在是太远了,而且地理位置尴尬…”
说着严绍又看了一眼众人、“当然,若是天子愿意驾临齐国,严绍自然是不胜欣喜…”
听了严绍的表态,众人议论纷纷,有的觉得青州其实也不错,因为现在的青州确实很富饶。这点从严绍这次带来的数千兵马就能看那的出来,别看只有五千多的骑兵,讲道理,这个时代的骑兵可是很值钱的。而养得起五千骑兵,本身就证明了青州的实力。
其实富饶什么的到不重要,关键在于能不能给他们发放俸禄。为什么最初赞同在洛阳留下的他们,最后会赞同到关东地区去?不就是因为洛阳的环境实在是太艰苦了些,继续留下的话,甚至还有饿肚子的可能?
吃苦的话,他们在长安的时候已经吃够了,所以是真的不愿意再吃一次,因此他们宁可跑到关东的一个小城去,也不愿意留在连养都养不起他们的洛阳。哪怕这里是曾经的帝都,哪怕这座城池的规模异常庞大。
一个连人都养不起的城池,谈论这些又有什么用?
相较之下,青州虽说是个偏僻的地方,临淄相较于洛阳,也要小的多,但是至少也算是这个时代难得的大型城市了,绝对不是寻常城市可比,更是比现如今的洛阳要强的许多。
甚至可以这么说,在这个时代,也就只有冀州的邺城,还有荆州的襄阳、宛城,益州的成都以及徐州的下邳等城池可以跟临淄相提并论,而这也是严绍这么多年来努力的成果,换做是过去的临淄是玩完没有这个资格的。
望着意动的众臣,严绍脸上笑眯眯的。
假如天子真的愿意到青州去,他自然是高兴的。虽说天子到了青州以后会带来许多的麻烦,可是好处也是显而易见的。不然的话,三国时期的那些谋士们也就不会全都盯上刘协了。
讲道理,下天子以令诸侯还真不是曹操这边先想出来的,袁绍那边早就想出来了,可惜的是袁绍却是个坑货,自己麾下的谋士想出的绝妙主意到他这里一个也没采纳。
不过严绍是绝对不会如此的,可惜的是,一,他跟朝中众臣的关系不太好,至少不熟悉,二,青州太远了,不然他还真想争取一下。
嗯嗯,不好意思,后面的一定尽快补上!
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“复先何意?”
严绍笑了笑,正视着对方,面对杨彪的看似威严的目光没有一点犹疑。
“恕我直言,如今天下大乱,汉室衰微,天子在世人眼里早已不再是高高在上的万民之主,反而成了傀儡一般。尤其是在各方诸侯的眼底,奇货可居而已。之前的董卓,李傕跟郭汜等人就是如此,若是到了关东以后,手里不能握有足够的实力,很难说会不会再次重蹈覆辙…”
“现如今的局势,指望用天子的名望就号令群雄是不可能的,唯一的办法就是效法当年的光武皇帝,手中更需要有一支铁军才行…”
“哦?难不成在复先看来,如杨奉或是徐荣等辈,难道不是汉室的忠臣吗?”听到严绍这么说,旁边一个大臣冷笑的道。“假如不是他们的话,天子跟我们恐怕还被困在长安,这样的人称不上忠臣的话,谁还能称得上?”
“杨将军跟徐将军是否是忠臣,这点不是我能评论的,不过我想杨大人应该有自己的看法…”严绍笑了笑,并没有一点动怒。“不过小心驶得万年船,到了如今,汉室复兴已经是千难万难,不可能再有一次的疏忽大意,更不能有顶点失败,所以再小的事情,搁在这里,也是天大的事情。”
“既然复先如此,为何不提议天子到青州去呢?”
这次开口的,却是杨彪。
“青州如今在复先的治理下,也堪称富饶,尤其是临淄更是天下有数的大城,又是齐国旧都,作为天子临时的居所也是恰当的,不是吗?”
说话间,却是眼神逼视着严绍,似乎想看出严绍心底的真是想法。
然而严绍听了,却是摇了摇头。“严绍自然是愿意将天子接到青州去,临淄虽说不比长安或是洛阳,也是有数的大城,又是齐国当年的旧都,就像大人所说,还是听恰当的。可是青州实在是太远了,而且地理位置尴尬…”
说着严绍又看了一眼众人、“当然,若是天子愿意驾临齐国,严绍自然是不胜欣喜…”
听了严绍的表态,众人议论纷纷,有的觉得青州其实也不错,因为现在的青州确实很富饶。这点从严绍这次带来的数千兵马就能看那的出来,别看只有五千多的骑兵,讲道理,这个时代的骑兵可是很值钱的。而养得起五千骑兵,本身就证明了青州的实力。
其实富饶什么的到不重要,关键在于能不能给他们发放俸禄。为什么最初赞同在洛阳留下的他们,最后会赞同到关东地区去?不就是因为洛阳的环境实在是太艰苦了些,继续留下的话,甚至还有饿肚子的可能?
吃苦的话,他们在长安的时候已经吃够了,所以是真的不愿意再吃一次,因此他们宁可跑到关东的一个小城去,也不愿意留在连养都养不起他们的洛阳。哪怕这里是曾经的帝都,哪怕这座城池的规模异常庞大。
一个连人都养不起的城池,谈论这些又有什么用?
相较之下,青州虽说是个偏僻的地方,临淄相较于洛阳,也要小的多,但是至少也算是这个时代难得的大型城市了,绝对不是寻常城市可比,更是比现如今的洛阳要强的许多。
甚至可以这么说,在这个时代,也就只有冀州的邺城,还有荆州的襄阳、宛城,益州的成都以及徐州的下邳等城池可以跟临淄相提并论,而这也是严绍这么多年来努力的成果,换做是过去的临淄是玩完没有这个资格的。
望着意动的众臣,严绍脸上笑眯眯的。
假如天子真的愿意到青州去,他自然是高兴的。虽说天子到了青州以后会带来许多的麻烦,可是好处也是显而易见的。不然的话,三国时期的那些谋士们也就不会全都盯上刘协了。
讲道理,下天子以令诸侯还真不是曹操这边先想出来的,袁绍那边早就想出来了,可惜的是袁绍却是个坑货,自己麾下的谋士想出的绝妙主意到他这里一个也没采纳。
不过严绍是绝对不会如此的,可惜的是,一,他跟朝中众臣的关系不太好,至少不熟悉,二,青州太远了,不然他还真想争取一下。
嗯嗯,不好意思,后面的一定尽快补上!
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